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Anonymous
We should create our own language. That could be a fun project for community-building.
Anonymous
that sounds like a good idea anon
>>12372 #
Anonymous
>>12339 #
The last time we tried this we had a tie for the name:
1) Chentu
2) Chen Chen
What would you like from a language like this?
>>12765 #
Anonymous
What?
Anonymous
Does anyone actually have the time and want to invest it in constructing a new language here? What is expected to be gained from this endevour? I certainly don't have the time to even learn about all the research that has been done into constructed languages, and if I did, I think I would find actual communities of linguists to research with.
Maybe I'm taking this to seriously, but I don't have that much time, and I question how anyone who feels they do have enough time feels that way.
>>12765 #>>13590 #
Anonymous
>>12372 #
I really like the name chen chen

>>12764 #
No one person has to have the time to make this. Everyone just has to put in a little bit. Also fun is to be gained. I think youre taking this a bit too serious lol.

I feel like we could get a lot of places by setting up the basic structure of the language and then making a list of the most common words spoken in the most popular languages and just letting anyone make a word.
>>13590 #
Anonymous
>>12764 #
I have the time. And anyways, it can be done casually through use. This isn't brain surgery. Start with something akin to Toki Pona then expand upon it until it is viable for everyday conversation.
>>12765 #
Got any suggestions?
I've been thinking of "ch_n" as one of our main roots, where the underscore represents a vowel.
>>13769 #
Anonymous
What would be needed to make this work?
>>13769 #
Anonymous
>>13590 #
Well I think word order should be SVO or VSO. I heard someone suggest free word order but I don't really know how that works. I think we could make this like heavy slang where more common words are similar to their english translation just for ease of use and everything.

I think chen should mean something positive. Like "good" or "chill" or something like that. When people are enjoying something they could say "chen chen" to show their approval or happiness or whatever.

>>13752 #
A list of the most commonly used words, some common agreements, and people to make words and catalog them
Anonymous
>I heard someone suggest free word order but I don't really know how that works.
Either with cases or particles, usually.
> I think we could make this like heavy slang where more common words are similar to their english translation just for ease of use and everything.
Initially, yes but I'd like to drift away from that in the long run.
>I think chen should mean something positive. Like "good" or "chill" or something like that.
Sort of like "toki"?
>A list of the most commonly used words, some common agreements, and people to make words and catalog them
We can use the Leipzig-Jakarta List and use the "common phrases" page from Omniglot.
>>13803 #
Anonymous
Ive been thinking about this and since this is a conlang developed for an imageboard of sorts our main words that we should be building should be based around computers, the internet, and an online experience first. I think we could pull the names for colors directly from solresol (roygbiv to the musical scale)

red == do
orange == re
yellow ==mi
green == fa
blue == so
indigo == la
violet == si

That just saves us some time right there
>>13906 #
Anonymous
>>13906 #
Im putting together some word maps based off of something i was skimming

http://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fl-000024-00.pdf

Its a little bit above my understanding but I think I get the basic concept. Before we make words we need maps of ideas that correspond with the words so they are more natural and relate with eachother.

like for instance: since this is an imageboard we will need words for different forms of media. I was thinking of words for picture, gif, and video. A word for sight or see needs to be created first since an image is dependent on sight, and for gif and video we need to have a word for motion or movement.
>>13918 #
Anonymous
>>13918 #
Sure but the words for sight/seeing and move/motion should be related to them somehow
>>13925 #
Anonymous
Ill try to keep notes but I am not the most organized if anyone wants to assist
>>13925 #
Anonymous
>>13922 #
>>13924 #
I am trying to keep track.
As for "motion", we could use "k_n", then fill in the blanks for various media and/or personal pronouns. Maybe something like "akine" or "akino" for "anime", where the base "k_n" means "motion" and/or "to move".
>>13930 #
Anonymous
>>13925 #
I like it, but do we want an exact word for anime? I was thinking we could just say like japanese akine or whatever or translation is for japanese

Not picky, just playing different ideas
>>13937 #
Anonymous
>>13937 #
I like the country code idea. But i think we could decide a different root. We need a root for the word place first I think, and we can modify that for countries. Maybe s*t? I thinking a place online is a => site => s*t. Japan could be Japasat, and we could fill in the vowel either with what appears in the code or with the first vowel in the english language of the word.

What do you think about that?
>>13971 #
Anonymous
>>13971 #
Ok lets go with that s*t + 3 letter code and first vowel in english word. I also think we should be able to throw two or more words together to make a new one
>>27582 #>>14340 #
Anonymous
I think chen should mean type/speak/talk because here it is all the same thing. Chen chen can mean good conversation, hello, or just "I enjoy this"
>>14340 #
Anonymous
>>14033 #
Personally, I find agglutinative languages to be very unwieldy and difficult to determine the meaning.
>>14044 #
Agreed.
>>15479 #
Anonymous
>>14340 #
I think vowels should denote the subject in our nouns
I thought computer/home could be one word "b*d", and phone could be a combination of motion and computer "K*nb*d
>>15850 #
Anonymous
What's all this then?
Anonymous
>>15850 #
so take the rootword b*d meaning computer/home. If it was your computer you were talking about you could say "bid", or if it was someone else computer you could say "bod"
>>20625 #>>27582 #
Anonymous
>>20625 #
Yeah sure! I don't know all the fancy lingo lol. It could work that way specifically in nouns. We could make all words a noun by default and have some way to modify it to be very or adjective or whatever. That could get messy though.
>>25325 #
Anonymous
>>20082 #
Root words thus far:
ch_n: type, speak, talk; chill, positive
k_n: motion, movement
b_d: computer, home
>>14033 #
Roots for countries:
three-letter country code + s_t (any needed vowels will be from the English name)
>>20082 #
>>25325 #
Conjugation:
-i- : I, me, my, mine (1st person) (singular?)
-o- : their, theirs (3rd person)
-e- we, our, ours (1st person plural) ("Chen Chen" = "Our Speak")

What should "-a-", "-u-", and maybe "-y-" cover?
>>31106 #>>99550 #
Anonymous
>>31421 #
"bed" would be used because it is a shared computer. Or you could use "bid" to show that you want it.
It would be something like... well I guess I cant say what word order are we doing? I just want object last idc if its SVO or VSO
>>31571 #
Anonymous
>>31571 #
Well by the power vested in me by being the only other person posting right now I make it so, VSO
>>31989 #
Anonymous
>>31989 #
I think we just need more users in general. It seems like we have a lot but I think it is just habitual kpop posters.

>>>31543
You could shill at the place I listed there but I don't know how many people of that group would be active in something like this.
>>32067 #
Anonymous
>>31999 #
"You have been banned from /j/ by admin for the following reason:

Cancer

Your ban will expire on Sun May 5 08:12:55 +0000 2019 or in 271h23m15s."

Looks like the administrator is a shithead.
>>32080 #
Anonymous
>>32067 #
Huh, interesting. Ban evasion is OK though
Anonymous
Just learn Esperanto like a normal person.
Anonymous
It looks like we've lost a few posts during the server switch.
Anonymous
What are some other things that you would like to add?
Anonymous
we should appreciate our newfriends over at blacked general by translating blacked as friends
eg. i enjoyed our time together lets get blacked together sometime
i put my child in daycare to get blacked with the other kids
hey wanna go behind the library and get blacked?
etc etc etc
>>60285 #
Anonymous
So I take it that this project is over.
Anonymous
This is a slow board we don't have to get this done this second.
>>78133 #
Anonymous
Stop shilling your thread in other threads. you newfags dont even know how to link the post.
>>85485 #
Anonymous
>>94200 #
Im thinking about this more and since were doing VSO it would be "Chun chen chen ka". Also I like the idea of ka but i think we need our own word for it
>>106447 #
Anonymous
This is a neat project.
>>27582 #
As for conjugation, -u- could be second person, and a dipthong ending with a- could be for past tense. Ex: chean is "what we spoke".
>>31421 #
Chon mem "os ot tirn (on the?) bed" if one were to just replace vowels from the English words.
Anonymous
Oh, hey. This is alive again. Good!
Anonymous
wooo
Anonymous
>>115719 #
t*m could be the root for tjhanks, so "Tum" would mean thank you.

>>106447 #
Id suggest mu or muh

Also is anyone keeping track of our words? Or should I be compiling a list also? One thing I really like about this is that we never have to worry about pronunciation because it is all digital, and similarly if someone felt inclined we could use characters from our keyboards also like !@#$%^&*
>>124792 #>>135821 #
Anonymous
Since all root words are nouns by default, how do we make verbs? Do we use particles, affixes, word order, or something else?
>>146252 #
Anonymous
>>118195 #
If we allow punctuation as potential characters, what effect would they have? What would "ch@n", "ch&n", and "ch#n" mean?
>>144937 #
Anonymous
>>131569 #
Word order will be first and foremost. If for some reason word order is unclear as to what is what we could fall back on an affix, or something else even.

I think we should start making sentences to speak with eachother and update our personal dictionaries as new words are added.
Anonymous
Speaking of affixes, should we have them? And what about diacritics? I take it that we will have at least 1 digraph (<ch>).
The last time we tried making this language, we had a suffix <-tu> as in Chentu.
Anonymous
Where and how should we spread Chen Chen?
>>163774 #
Anonymous
Should I just post a huge list of all roots then let you all assign meanings?
>>172765 #
Anonymous
Learn Toki Pona instead.
Anonymous
>>42755 #
You are reading history in the making.
Anonymous
Considering the way we're going I think we should be able to perhaps borrow some rules from latin. Romance languages are heavy on conjugations and declension rules, but I believe their format remains effective for something as compressed and direct as imageboards. I don't know of many free resources online as I learned from high school, though I found: http://learn101.org/latin.php
>>251207 #
Anonymous
>>250832 #
I thought we wanted something simpler than the clusterfuq that is Latin. I mean, if people want it, I'll go with it but most people will be too lazy to bother.
Anonymous
fantaza ni dinosaman,
izi gar probu te.
nice mome, ni narake,
i supra, mon saman.
fantaza pan nasi ren…
jiwa pa zay den…

[Vimeo] ???
Anonymous
Someone should do something about all the spam in the catalogs.

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